PSA: "Can I talk to you?" troll
3 Mar 2010 08:20 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
ETA 20/09/10 I am still updating this post, although I'm tending to add the names in batches so it may be a week or so before I get around to it.
If you have recently received a random message or contact from an unknown person containing text similar to the title, it may be a troll. His name seems to be Paul Melville Austin, but he uses a variety of pseudonyms, including Paul Benjamn Austin (also just plain Paul Austin) and Paul Sebastian Williams, to harass users and gain attention for himself. He seems to have accounts on both LiveJournal and Dreamwidth under the names of
australianchild,
bullenemu,
colemancharlott and
tyne_wear (ETA Also
marmaladeatkins,
michellerowatt,
carlottecoleman,
marmaladeatkins,
thetestcard,
australiaoz,
marmalade44,
uline,
marmaladeat,
charcoleman,
ozaustralia,
marmalade00,
australian00s,
australiachild,
tyne_and_wear,
jasminebreaks,
aliciajohns,
w6chamap,
tynetees,
mullauna.myopenid.com,
australia_oz,
mitcham.myopenid.com,
aus_dw,
middletonkate,
phillipart,
P Bm Austin, Paul B. Austin and Jordy Lucas [Last three names are from Facebook]) but may have others. He is also known to use some non-journal nicknames and have multiple email addresses.
He has several behaviors, and a general pattern by which you can identify him;
*He contacts users, via email, IM's or private messages.
*He usually presents himself as either a young woman (generally using a stolen icon) or as an older, disabled man.
- His frequently changes his name with each contact.
*He will generally start out saying something like "can I talk to you?".
*He then launches into a story of abuse.
- Sometimes the abuse will be sexual and sometimes it is disability related, with either a sexual or humiliation component. The specific details vary from contact to contact.
*He will often express gender identity confusion and/or dating problems.
*He is interested in alternate history and fandom and will sometimes try to use this to get close to his new target.
*He often sets off the "squick-o-meter" when conversing with people. You may get a feeling that there is something Not Quite Right.
*On some occasions he has continued communication, even after being asked to stop
For example in August 2008 he posed as a High School Student called Marta (http://community.feministing.com/2008/08/reaching-out-and-welcoming.html) who was a survivor of sexual abuse.
This behaviour has continued over many years. He may or may not be dangerous. Please use appropriate amounts of caution if you choose to interact with him. If you feel he is breaking or has broken the Dreamwidth or LiveJournal Terms of Service while interacting with you, please contact them immediately. They can be reached via abuse@dreamwidth.org or abuse@livejournal.com, as appropriate.
I am trying to collect more information about the people he contacts and his interactions with them. If you believe you may have had contact with one of his personas, please leave me a message on this post.
Comments are screened, please note whether you want the comment to remain screened or are happy to have it unscreened. Anon comments are allowed, but may not necessarily be unscreened.
The more people who know about this man and his MO, the fewer people he can harass and trick. So also, please consider linking or re-posting this note in your own journal.
Thanks!
If you have recently received a random message or contact from an unknown person containing text similar to the title, it may be a troll. His name seems to be Paul Melville Austin, but he uses a variety of pseudonyms, including Paul Benjamn Austin (also just plain Paul Austin) and Paul Sebastian Williams, to harass users and gain attention for himself. He seems to have accounts on both LiveJournal and Dreamwidth under the names of
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P Bm Austin, Paul B. Austin and Jordy Lucas [Last three names are from Facebook]) but may have others. He is also known to use some non-journal nicknames and have multiple email addresses.
He has several behaviors, and a general pattern by which you can identify him;
*He contacts users, via email, IM's or private messages.
*He usually presents himself as either a young woman (generally using a stolen icon) or as an older, disabled man.
- His frequently changes his name with each contact.
*He will generally start out saying something like "can I talk to you?".
*He then launches into a story of abuse.
- Sometimes the abuse will be sexual and sometimes it is disability related, with either a sexual or humiliation component. The specific details vary from contact to contact.
*He will often express gender identity confusion and/or dating problems.
*He is interested in alternate history and fandom and will sometimes try to use this to get close to his new target.
*He often sets off the "squick-o-meter" when conversing with people. You may get a feeling that there is something Not Quite Right.
*On some occasions he has continued communication, even after being asked to stop
For example in August 2008 he posed as a High School Student called Marta (http://community.feministing.com/2008/08/reaching-out-and-welcoming.html) who was a survivor of sexual abuse.
This behaviour has continued over many years. He may or may not be dangerous. Please use appropriate amounts of caution if you choose to interact with him. If you feel he is breaking or has broken the Dreamwidth or LiveJournal Terms of Service while interacting with you, please contact them immediately. They can be reached via abuse@dreamwidth.org or abuse@livejournal.com, as appropriate.
I am trying to collect more information about the people he contacts and his interactions with them. If you believe you may have had contact with one of his personas, please leave me a message on this post.
Comments are screened, please note whether you want the comment to remain screened or are happy to have it unscreened. Anon comments are allowed, but may not necessarily be unscreened.
The more people who know about this man and his MO, the fewer people he can harass and trick. So also, please consider linking or re-posting this note in your own journal.
Thanks!
no subject
Date: Wed, Mar. 3rd, 2010 10:12 am (UTC)I use my DW account fairly little, and I'm not active in high-traffic places; my best guess is that he would have found me through my interests.
(Screen or unscreen as you see fit. And, err, hi.)
no subject
Date: Wed, Mar. 3rd, 2010 10:15 am (UTC)And thank you.
no subject
Date: Wed, Mar. 3rd, 2010 10:52 am (UTC)I know someone on my LJ friends list mentioned him a while back, but unfortunately I can't find the post right now. If I do manage to find it I'll drop them a link to this post of yours, if that's OK?
I'm OK with you unscreening this.
no subject
Date: Wed, Mar. 3rd, 2010 11:00 am (UTC)(no subject)
From:no subject
Date: Wed, Mar. 3rd, 2010 11:07 am (UTC)--- australianchild wrote:
> Hi
> i saw you have Enid Blyton in your interests - can i talk with you
>
> at the moment my favourite Blyton book is "In the Fifth at Malory Towers"
I didn't reply, since it struck me as bizarre. Feel free to unscreen.
no subject
Date: Thu, Mar. 4th, 2010 07:13 am (UTC)no subject
Date: Wed, Mar. 3rd, 2010 11:42 am (UTC)Actually, that was the second time. The first time, it was the same message, from someone different (sorry, I can't recall the name), I looked them up, saw they weren't active, said to myself "why should I waste my precious time with a complete stranger?" and deleted the PM without replying to it.
Thus, when it happened the second time, I assumed it was Spam, since the content was exactly the same.
(yes, you can unscreen if you like)
no subject
Date: Thu, Mar. 4th, 2010 07:14 am (UTC)no subject
Date: Wed, Mar. 3rd, 2010 11:58 am (UTC)Unscreen if you like.
no subject
Date: Thu, Mar. 4th, 2010 07:14 am (UTC)Definitely the way to go. Thank you.
no subject
Date: Wed, Mar. 3rd, 2010 12:36 pm (UTC)Okay to unscreen
no subject
Date: Thu, Mar. 4th, 2010 07:15 am (UTC)Okay to Unscreen
Date: Wed, Mar. 3rd, 2010 04:44 pm (UTC)Re: Okay to Unscreen
Date: Thu, Mar. 4th, 2010 07:28 am (UTC)(I've added some new names from LJ, do any of them look familiar?)
no subject
Date: Wed, Mar. 3rd, 2010 07:43 pm (UTC)(It's okay to unscreen this).
no subject
Date: Thu, Mar. 4th, 2010 07:29 am (UTC)no subject
Date: Wed, Mar. 3rd, 2010 09:18 pm (UTC)and the message:
Hi
can i talk with you?
please?
I looked at the journal, saw it was empty, thought why the heck would I talk to somebody I don't know at all (I'd just before that posted a public entry which probably came up on the feed thing here at DW of all public entries--that was my best guess as to why I was contacted then), and didn't reply.
(You can unscreen this)
this is eljay user equals cesario
Date: Thu, Mar. 4th, 2010 01:19 am (UTC)"Hi
can i talk with you?
pretty please?"
I replied "what about?" and didn't hear from the person again, but the journal set off alarm bells. This user has the location set at Australia too.
cesario again
Date: Thu, Mar. 4th, 2010 01:21 am (UTC)no subject
Date: Thu, Mar. 4th, 2010 03:08 am (UTC)I had a LJ PM about four months ago from an
"Hi
can i talk with you?
i like your icon"
It had the same "Redheads have more fun" userpic as two of the accounts you gave above. I didn't respond, but didn't think anything of it until I saw this entry. Feel free to unscreen this comment; others may recognise this additional identity.
no subject
Date: Thu, Mar. 4th, 2010 07:40 am (UTC)no subject
Date: Thu, Mar. 4th, 2010 03:53 am (UTC)no subject
Date: Thu, Mar. 4th, 2010 07:41 am (UTC)Hopefully he'll calm down his activities now.
Re: I got this 5 weeks ago. Another name for the list?
Date: Thu, Mar. 4th, 2010 10:06 am (UTC)no subject
Date: Thu, Mar. 4th, 2010 10:38 am (UTC)The response was Oh no-one you know
I'm just lonely.
I did not respond to that as looking through the lj with no posts its set of alarm bells.
I still have it though if you think it would be useful.
pomkeygeekange on lj
(feel free to do with this comment as you see fit.)
no subject
Date: Thu, Mar. 4th, 2010 11:35 am (UTC)no subject
Date: Thu, Mar. 4th, 2010 11:43 am (UTC)(I'm happy for you to unscreen.)
no subject
Date: Thu, Mar. 4th, 2010 03:18 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: Thu, Mar. 4th, 2010 01:56 pm (UTC)Hi
can i talk with you?
pretty please?
I made a flocked post after the second message asking if it had happened to anyone else and 3 people told me it had happened to them too. I'm happy for you to unscreen this comment.
no subject
Date: Thu, Mar. 4th, 2010 03:19 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: Thu, Mar. 4th, 2010 02:22 pm (UTC)Hi
can i talk with you?
please?
I chose not to engage. Will now block and mark as spam.
Thanks for the heads up!
no subject
Date: Thu, Mar. 4th, 2010 03:20 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: Thu, Mar. 4th, 2010 02:23 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: Thu, Mar. 4th, 2010 02:25 pm (UTC)From australiaoz saying Hi can i talk with you? i like your icon
Then from ozaustralia saying Hi
can i talk with you?
pretty please?
Feel free to unscreen.
no subject
Date: Thu, Mar. 4th, 2010 03:21 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: Thu, Mar. 4th, 2010 02:44 pm (UTC)I think I need a shower. I really do feel kind of dirty now.
Feel free to unscreen this.
no subject
Date: Thu, Mar. 4th, 2010 03:21 pm (UTC)(no subject)
From:no subject
Date: Thu, Mar. 4th, 2010 02:52 pm (UTC)He replied saying he was depressed because he was a man who had a genetic condition that caused "feminisation" - female breasts hips and skin he mentioned.
I found it odd and tried to be pleasant and reassuring but the meeesages quickly stopped
(feel free to unscreen)
no subject
Date: Thu, Mar. 4th, 2010 03:23 pm (UTC)Thank you for commenting.
(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:no subject
Date: Thu, Mar. 4th, 2010 03:48 pm (UTC)I responded, asking what for, why me, and who are you anyway (in a somewhat more civil tone), and they said something about being bullied because of health issues. I replied that I probably wasn't the best person to speak to, wished them luck finding somebody else, and that was that. They didn't try to prolong the contact. Until now I had forgotten about it, actually.
Feel free to unscreen.
no subject
Date: Thu, Mar. 4th, 2010 03:49 pm (UTC)Have issued a warning on my LJ and it seems he's contacted several people I know.
Feel free to unscreen
no subject
Date: Thu, Mar. 4th, 2010 05:21 pm (UTC)This person sent me two private messages on Lj from user "thetestcard" just like you describe. The first was "Can I talk to you?" to which I answered "If you like" and the second was a bit about having a medical condition and people making fun of them for it. I never replied to the second, though I intended to, cause what to I say to some random person I don't know on teh intarwebs about that? It was like AOL in 1997, where people just randomly talked to other people about whatever. Glad I didn't reply now. The text of our limited correspondence, for the record:
no one you know
sorry if i upset you
just feeling sad - medical stuff - people bully me or use my condition to humiliate me
Is it ok to talk about it?
sorry just really sad and hoping someone has a heart
--- rowmyboat wrote:
> If you'd like.
>
>
> --- thetestcard wrote:
> > Hi
> > can i talk with you?
> > pretty please?